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		<title>By: Evan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 21:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Karen, learning skills can definitely help.  Thanks for your comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Karen, learning skills can definitely help.  Thanks for your comment.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Karen Sherman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr. Karen Sherman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 17:29:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These are all really good points!

As a relationship expert (www.ChoiceRelationships.com), I would like to add that couples need to know that conflicts are bound to happen.  But here&#039;s the good news:  there are skills they can learn so that they can handle them better.  When they do, their partnerships fare much better.  I offer a free teleseminar, &quot;The 7 Tools to Manage Conflict Communication in Your Relationship.&quot;  To hear it, go to: http://choicerelationships.com/teleseminar_resources.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These are all really good points!</p>
<p>As a relationship expert (www.ChoiceRelationships.com), I would like to add that couples need to know that conflicts are bound to happen.  But here&#8217;s the good news:  there are skills they can learn so that they can handle them better.  When they do, their partnerships fare much better.  I offer a free teleseminar, &#8220;The 7 Tools to Manage Conflict Communication in Your Relationship.&#8221;  To hear it, go to: <a href="http://choicerelationships.com/teleseminar_resources" rel="nofollow">http://choicerelationships.com....._resources</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Evan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 22:29:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Barbara.  It probably won&#039;t surprise you to know that I think both sides are important.  The one who wants to go quickly and the one who wants to slow down.  I really appreciate your heart felt comments.  Many thanks, Evan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Barbara.  It probably won&#8217;t surprise you to know that I think both sides are important.  The one who wants to go quickly and the one who wants to slow down.  I really appreciate your heart felt comments.  Many thanks, Evan</p>
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		<title>By: Barbara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barbara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 22:02:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Evan,

I didn&#039;t think you were characterizing sensitive people as grumpy.

There are grumpy people, God knows, I believe I know that.

In fact, it goes directly to your Living with Dying post in my own life.

When I was a little girl, I lived with people much much older than me and diagnosed with terminal stuff, or stuff that had less treatment/knowledge available about the diagnosis&#039;.

More recently in my life, I cared for three more elderly relatives.  Grumpy for one of them was not even a close description and he was healthy for his age until 93. Actually he was THE most challenging of the three.

Which of course has everything to do with me comparing my excitable reactions to squeaky wheel grumpy.

It unfortunately seems to appear as a fine line issue to those who observe from the sidelines, and think &quot;there she goes again&quot;.

And on a last note, there are more times than not I&#039;m having the same conversation with myself.  Stop, slow down, don&#039;t get excited, read at face value, your blood pressure matters!

I appreciate even keel, I especially appreciate when I can do it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Evan,</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t think you were characterizing sensitive people as grumpy.</p>
<p>There are grumpy people, God knows, I believe I know that.</p>
<p>In fact, it goes directly to your Living with Dying post in my own life.</p>
<p>When I was a little girl, I lived with people much much older than me and diagnosed with terminal stuff, or stuff that had less treatment/knowledge available about the diagnosis&#8217;.</p>
<p>More recently in my life, I cared for three more elderly relatives.  Grumpy for one of them was not even a close description and he was healthy for his age until 93. Actually he was THE most challenging of the three.</p>
<p>Which of course has everything to do with me comparing my excitable reactions to squeaky wheel grumpy.</p>
<p>It unfortunately seems to appear as a fine line issue to those who observe from the sidelines, and think &#8220;there she goes again&#8221;.</p>
<p>And on a last note, there are more times than not I&#8217;m having the same conversation with myself.  Stop, slow down, don&#8217;t get excited, read at face value, your blood pressure matters!</p>
<p>I appreciate even keel, I especially appreciate when I can do it.</p>
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		<title>By: Evan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 21:47:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Barbara, It may have been unfair of me to characterise sensitive people as &#039;grumpy&#039;.  I have known many people more emotional than I - or people who like the strength of emotion, while I like to sail along on an even keel.  It has taken the more emotional people a while to understand that I&#039;m not hiding anything - I just don&#039;t respond as strongly as them to most things.

I try to keep in mind that people can have differing reactions to what i write.  Also that I am dealing with matters that can be quite personal.  Blogging is strange - more strange than print perhaps - we have personal reactions to something that looks quite impersonal - black squiggles on white.  With blogging where interaction is fairly easy this is particularly the case I think.  In some ways blogging is a mass medium - the closest analogy I can think of is talk-back radio (kind of one-on-one and kind of a mass audience too).

I guess the way forward for us is that you can send me an email or we can discuss your reactions to the posts in the comments.  This goes someway to being one on one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Barbara, It may have been unfair of me to characterise sensitive people as &#8216;grumpy&#8217;.  I have known many people more emotional than I &#8211; or people who like the strength of emotion, while I like to sail along on an even keel.  It has taken the more emotional people a while to understand that I&#8217;m not hiding anything &#8211; I just don&#8217;t respond as strongly as them to most things.</p>
<p>I try to keep in mind that people can have differing reactions to what i write.  Also that I am dealing with matters that can be quite personal.  Blogging is strange &#8211; more strange than print perhaps &#8211; we have personal reactions to something that looks quite impersonal &#8211; black squiggles on white.  With blogging where interaction is fairly easy this is particularly the case I think.  In some ways blogging is a mass medium &#8211; the closest analogy I can think of is talk-back radio (kind of one-on-one and kind of a mass audience too).</p>
<p>I guess the way forward for us is that you can send me an email or we can discuss your reactions to the posts in the comments.  This goes someway to being one on one.</p>
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		<title>By: Barbara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barbara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 21:25:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Evan

I had a little different reaction to this article.  I think I am a highly sensitive person.  My reactions often reflective of my sensitivity.  I used to think I too was grumpy, or the squeaky wheel demanding my grease.  And I&#039;m not totally ruling that out as someting I may have done.  Or that it appeared outwardly to others that&#039;s how I was getting my say.

As a sensitive person, I often am wary of people who respond too passively.  I wonder how much they mean or don&#039;t with this rather, cool and calm reaction to something I&#039;ve seen as &#039;more important&#039;, &#039;more meaningful&#039;.  It is then a matter of trust in the person I reacted to, how well I might or might not know them.

I think the combinations of this dynamic of grumpy people vs. not grumpy people is as varied as there are combinations of people interacting in a situation.  So less mass &#039;solutions&#039; to be applied here.  Rather one on one focus.

I suppose if I use the example of you and I, I&#039;ve been triggered many times by what you&#039;ve said.  Two of your recent posts, the two posts about Easter and Living with Dying, struck me at levels that even I haven&#039;t been able to decipher yet.

It seems, you stated your case and position very calmly and I was at the other end, trying to manage triggers.

I don&#039;t say this to diminish, but this is a blog post.  And has nothing to do with either of us personally, nor in relationship to one another.  Or does it?  We weren&#039;t even in proximity to one another nor having a personal discussion.  Even so, it was not without effect on my thoughts/reactions half way around the world and we&#039;ve never even formally met!

I guess what I can deduce by this is, there are calm folks like you.  There are more effected folks like me.  Seems if you and I interact, we have to figure that out between us, so maybe micromanaging, rather than broader choices as solution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Evan</p>
<p>I had a little different reaction to this article.  I think I am a highly sensitive person.  My reactions often reflective of my sensitivity.  I used to think I too was grumpy, or the squeaky wheel demanding my grease.  And I&#8217;m not totally ruling that out as someting I may have done.  Or that it appeared outwardly to others that&#8217;s how I was getting my say.</p>
<p>As a sensitive person, I often am wary of people who respond too passively.  I wonder how much they mean or don&#8217;t with this rather, cool and calm reaction to something I&#8217;ve seen as &#8216;more important&#8217;, &#8216;more meaningful&#8217;.  It is then a matter of trust in the person I reacted to, how well I might or might not know them.</p>
<p>I think the combinations of this dynamic of grumpy people vs. not grumpy people is as varied as there are combinations of people interacting in a situation.  So less mass &#8216;solutions&#8217; to be applied here.  Rather one on one focus.</p>
<p>I suppose if I use the example of you and I, I&#8217;ve been triggered many times by what you&#8217;ve said.  Two of your recent posts, the two posts about Easter and Living with Dying, struck me at levels that even I haven&#8217;t been able to decipher yet.</p>
<p>It seems, you stated your case and position very calmly and I was at the other end, trying to manage triggers.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t say this to diminish, but this is a blog post.  And has nothing to do with either of us personally, nor in relationship to one another.  Or does it?  We weren&#8217;t even in proximity to one another nor having a personal discussion.  Even so, it was not without effect on my thoughts/reactions half way around the world and we&#8217;ve never even formally met!</p>
<p>I guess what I can deduce by this is, there are calm folks like you.  There are more effected folks like me.  Seems if you and I interact, we have to figure that out between us, so maybe micromanaging, rather than broader choices as solution.</p>
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		<title>By: Evan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 21:31:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Liz.  I do think screaming is a way to get attention - especially when we feel all alone and that nothing else is working.  It certainly works short-term; the problem is that it isn&#039;t much of a recipe for growing a healthy relationship.  I really agree about a common journey strengthening a relationship.  Another element I think is a way of talking about stuff - sometimes people talk at cross-purposes, which is frustrating for everyone involved.  Welcome to the blog and thanks for your comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Liz.  I do think screaming is a way to get attention &#8211; especially when we feel all alone and that nothing else is working.  It certainly works short-term; the problem is that it isn&#8217;t much of a recipe for growing a healthy relationship.  I really agree about a common journey strengthening a relationship.  Another element I think is a way of talking about stuff &#8211; sometimes people talk at cross-purposes, which is frustrating for everyone involved.  Welcome to the blog and thanks for your comment.</p>
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		<title>By: liz</title>
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		<dc:creator>liz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 13:14:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As babies we learn that the best way to get love, food and attention is to open our mouths and scream real loud and it&#039;s easy to repeat that pattern since, at least on the short term, it seems to work.

I&#039;m no expert but I think one key to a lasting relationship is  finding someone who is on the same journey or path as you are. Sharing common goals or a common cause strengthens bonds between friends, family and significant others and lets us overlook the minor stuff.

Love the wallaby. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As babies we learn that the best way to get love, food and attention is to open our mouths and scream real loud and it&#8217;s easy to repeat that pattern since, at least on the short term, it seems to work.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m no expert but I think one key to a lasting relationship is  finding someone who is on the same journey or path as you are. Sharing common goals or a common cause strengthens bonds between friends, family and significant others and lets us overlook the minor stuff.</p>
<p>Love the wallaby. <img src='http://www.livingauthentically.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Evan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 12:32:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks rj, I was thinking of domestic relationships.  Work is interesting.  There are varying incentive structures (formal and informal, financial and not) that come into play.  I&#039;d say a day in most workplaces is enough to prove false any assumption of people behaving as rational grown ups with a common purpose (perhaps that&#039;s the workplaces I&#039;ve experienced).

I think there are things that can be done to alter the environment - and people can adapt very rapidly to their environment.  This is everything from running meetings differently to getting people together informally - a famous example is the company announcing the coffee was ready to encourage people from different departments to meet and share ideas (I think it was Hewlett-Packard, but I&#039;m not sure).  The example of the &#039;person at the top&#039; can also be influential.

You&#039;ve raised a fascinating question, thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks rj, I was thinking of domestic relationships.  Work is interesting.  There are varying incentive structures (formal and informal, financial and not) that come into play.  I&#8217;d say a day in most workplaces is enough to prove false any assumption of people behaving as rational grown ups with a common purpose (perhaps that&#8217;s the workplaces I&#8217;ve experienced).</p>
<p>I think there are things that can be done to alter the environment &#8211; and people can adapt very rapidly to their environment.  This is everything from running meetings differently to getting people together informally &#8211; a famous example is the company announcing the coffee was ready to encourage people from different departments to meet and share ideas (I think it was Hewlett-Packard, but I&#8217;m not sure).  The example of the &#8216;person at the top&#8217; can also be influential.</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve raised a fascinating question, thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: rjleaman</title>
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		<dc:creator>rjleaman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 10:45:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm, I guess I was thinking of conflict in terms of business partnerships and colleagues in committee work, rather than personal relationships...

At home, yes, I think it&#039;s necessary for people to sit down and talk about how they plan to get along together and make an agreement to act like civilized adults - but in the workplace, where we start out with the assumption (right or wrong) of being rational grown-ups with a common purpose, that kind of conversation would be inappropriate in most cases.

Brings it down to individual responsibility for our own behaviour, doesn&#039;t it? And back to square one... if the squeaky wheel gets the grease, where&#039;s his motivation to squeak less loudly?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, I guess I was thinking of conflict in terms of business partnerships and colleagues in committee work, rather than personal relationships&#8230;</p>
<p>At home, yes, I think it&#8217;s necessary for people to sit down and talk about how they plan to get along together and make an agreement to act like civilized adults &#8211; but in the workplace, where we start out with the assumption (right or wrong) of being rational grown-ups with a common purpose, that kind of conversation would be inappropriate in most cases.</p>
<p>Brings it down to individual responsibility for our own behaviour, doesn&#8217;t it? And back to square one&#8230; if the squeaky wheel gets the grease, where&#8217;s his motivation to squeak less loudly?</p>
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